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Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Transitioning from a Crib to a Bed

For many Babywise moms, the transition from a crib to a bed is much easier than they anticipated. That is how it was for us with Brayden. We moved Brayden from the crib to a twin size bed when he was 21 months old (but close to 22 months old). At the same time, he also moved to a new room. It was shortly before Kaitlyn was born, and I wanted him to be fully adjusted before Kaitlyn came along to sleep in the crib.

I was nervous. I didn't want him to get out of his bed and play instead of sleep. We moved him over, and things went smoothly. We had no problems. A Babywise child typically has little difficulty (relatively speaking) with this transition because he is trained to obedience. He is required to obey mommy all day, so why should night be any different? It isn't.

On Becoming Toddlerwise Tips
Toddlerwise talks about this transition starting on page 135. Here are some highlights:
  • Typically happens between ages 18-24 months.
  • The only thing that holds your child in bed to sleep is your word. There are no longer physical boundaries. Your word needs to be obeyed in the day if you want it to be obeyed at night.
  • Moving to a bed is a freedom. Be sure your child is ready for that freedom.
  • You can include your child in purchasing the new bed and the sheets etc. (although we didn't do this; we already had it all).
  • The child can help set up the bed and make the bed.
  • Do it on a night when Mom and Dad can both be there in the morning to make a big deal out of the transition.
  • Do not allow your child to get out of bed without your permission. Teach them to call to you when they want to get up.
  • Buy a side rail for the bed for your child's safety.

My Tips:

  • Be sure your child has something familiar to carry over to the new bed. You want to be clear that this new bed is where your child now sleeps. Brayden had a few stuffed animals that he slept with in his crib. He also had his blankie. I put those on his bed with him to sleep just like he had in his crib.
  • Have a naptime and bedtime routine. Singing a song, reading a story, etc. Whatever your routine is, it will help signal your child that it is now time for sleep. See this post for more: Sleep Routine: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/sleep-routine.html
  • Get a side rail for sure. This helped me feel much better about his safety in the night. I also put a pillow at the foot of his bed, and a pillow between the side rail and the pillow at the foot of the bed just to help have a boundary. He has never fallen out of bed (his bed is against a wall).
  • If you put the bed against a wall, you might need to roll up some blankets to put between the mattress and the wall if there is a gap.
  • I have said it before, but if you read stories, I recommend not reading them in the bed. We used to do that. Bedtime ended up being dragged out. Kids are very good at lengthening out the time of the bedtime routine. We read stories in a recliner--and we also have a predetermined number of stories that will be read.
  • Give lots of praise for obedience and show a lot of excitement over the transition. I know I was emotional, but I didn't show that to Brayden.

Toddler Bed vs. Twin Bed
What type of bed you get can be a tough call. In the end, I think you need to make the decision that is most convenient for your family. Here is some criteria to consider:

  • Price. We already owned a twin bed. I considered buying a toddler bed for Brayden, but in the end decided to go with what we had. We would have had to buy the toddler bed and the mattress since we were using the crib mattress for the crib. We also would have had to store our twin bed somewhere while using the toddler bed. In the end, it just logically made more sense to use the bed we already owned.
  • Extras. As I mentioned, toddler beds require a crib mattress. If you will have another child while your toddler is using the toddler bed, then you will have to buy another mattress. If not, you already have the mattress and the sheets for a toddler bed.
  • Future Use. Is this your last child? Are there other children in your future? Will you have other children who will get use out of the toddler bed? How long would you anticipate using the toddler bed before buying a twin? One determining factor for me was that Brayden would be moved to a twin bed in a couple of years anyway. I decided it was better to just stick with buying stuff for one bed rather than two. If you have future children, however, they could use the toddler bed when the child moves to twin. When we have our next child, we plan to have Brayden and Kaitlyn share their room. At that time, we will either get bunk beds or a trundle bed for under Brayden's bed. So I knew the toddler bed wouldn't be used in the future by Kaitlyn.
  • Space. A toddler bed is a lot smaller than a twin bed. If you have limited space right now, you might want to go with the toddler bed instead of the twin.
  • Safety. This really isn't a huge deal, I think (not that I think safety isn't a huge deal, but that either bed is safe). The fall from a toddler bed is a shorter distance than from a twin bed. But as mentioned above, you can take measures against that. A toddler bed is easier for a toddler to get in and out of (for better or worse). Brayden has a step stool next to his bed to help him get in and out (it is pretty high).

In the end, one bed isn't fundamentally better than the other. Do what is best for your family's situation and your child.

Staying in Bed

  • If your child gets out of bed after you instruct him not to, evaluate yourself and see if there are parenting gaps you need to correct.
  • When your child calls out to you, respond. You want to reward him for listening to you. I can see some kids calling out after a few minutes and declaring the nap over. Respond and inform him that naptime is not over yet, that he needs to sleep, etc.
  • Toddlerwise says to initially instruct your child to not get out of bed until you come get him. So how long is initially? Toddlerwise doesn't say. Brayden is almost three, and I still don't allow him to get out of bed until I come get him. I know Brayden and know that sleep is absolutely last on his list of priorities. If I allowed him to get out of bed on his own, I think he would get up and play with his toys instead of sleeping. Things might be different with Kaitlyn since she loves to sleep. For now, Brayden still stays in bed until I get him. I can see him moving in the direction of being ready to take that responsibility on himself, but he isn't ready yet. You will have to decide when your child is ready. Of course you want the day to come when your child gets up on his own. He needs to be completely ready to take a nap, then get up. Not lay for a while then get up and play.
  • What do you do if they get out? Brayden never did this until several months ago. He went about a year without ever getting out of his bed without permission. I went in and told him he needed to get in his bed. I then told him he needed to stay there until Mommy or Daddy came to get him. I then put him in his bed and left the room for a few minutes. I went back in and he was in his bed. I praised him for obeying and being a good boy and got him out (it was the end of his nap). This happened a couple of times (seemingly randomly). It seems to be fine now.
  • Whatever your rules will be for staying in bed, decide on them before you move your child over so you are ready if you are faced with your child getting out on his own.

21 comments:

Tanya Hebert said...

Thank you so much for this post! It is exactly what we needed. Thanks so much for doing this blog - it really is an amazing source!

Dana said...

I don't think you've dealt with this yet, but would like to ask anyway. Kyle is great at staying in bed until we come get him. Too good. We want him to get out of bed to use the bathroom when he wakes up. Sometimes when he wets the bed (not always)it is when he wakes and has to go, but I haven't come to get him. He doesn't say anything/call for me, nor does he get out of bed to go.
He knows he is allowed to get out to go to the bathroom, and he knows he can call for me. (I know this b/c we went through several nights where he tested the theory shortly after being put to bed.) I don't know how to get him to get out of bed to go. Any ideas?

Plowmanators said...

You are welcome Tanya!

Plowmanators said...

Dana, I haven't had that problem. I will think on it, and if anything strikes me, I will let you know. I would try limiting liquids close to bed...I think I would focus more on that side of it if he doesn't get out of bed :)

sevans said...

HI. Just found your site as I was trying to research an issue I'm having. My daughter is 10 and 1/2 months old and I'm having trouble getting her to go to sleep. In the past, naps and bedtime were a breeze but for the past two weeks she stands in her cribs and cries. I've let her cry it out, and I've also tried comforting her at times. Nothing is working. Have you experienced anything like this or have advice?
THank you for your help!

Julia said...

Thanks for writing on this. We are due with #2 in January and DD will only be 20 months when the baby is born. we are going to attempt to start the transition process at 18 months to see how ready she is.

Thanks again!

Plowmanators said...

Sevans, Has she just started to learn to stand in the crib? This is not uncommon. Here is a post on it:

Nap Disruptions: Rolling, Standing, Crawling, etc: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/nap-disruptions-rolling-standing.html

Plowmanators said...

You are welcome Julia! Congrats on your new baby!

Rachel Stellaaa said...

Dana
Do you think kyle is waking up in the middle of the night and needing to go to the bathroom but doesn't want to get up unless you get him, or is he possibly still having trouble controlling his bladder at night. I know a lot of kids are "night potty trained" a lot later than they are day potty trained.

Dana said...

Thanks Rachel! Up until March, when we tried to let him go completely through the night, he stayed dry & clean. We had been (and are now) taking him to the bathroom one last time before we went to bed.
Initially I think it was the waking wet those couple mornings we tried to let him go through that set it off. Then it kept happening and more frequently. It's been getting better, but is still not back to the way it was. My two thoughts are that he is either dreaming or he doesn't get up w/o us. (He was potty trained in October. Almost 5 months of dry and clean from 10:30 pm to 7:00 am before the wetting started.)

K said...

Thanks for this post. My toddler is 19 mo and we just had another baby. We got a toddler bed (cheap:D) but she is still sleeping in her pack 'n play that we've used as a crib since she was born. She is still pretty young but when I tried to have her take a nap in the toddler bed awhile ago she really freaked out when I left the room and closed the door. We think it's just some form of separation anxiety? She thinks we're leaving for real. She does just fine if we put her in the pen and leave, but not if she has a lot of space to move around. After my little "trial" she was super clingy for the next couple days, not letting me out of her sight, whereas before she was fine with independant play. She is back in the pack 'n play for now, and her clinginess subsided after a few days. I figured we would try again later. She will climb on the bed to read by herself for 10-15 minutes while i'm out of the room so the issue doesn't seem to be the bed itself, just all the open space. Any suggestions? Should we practice taking naps in the bed but continue to use the pen? Or is it more effective to just put the pen away? Should I just wait until she's older?

Plowmanators said...

K, Your daughter is at an age for separation anxiety. Part of it is likely also the new baby transition. They can get really clingy with a new baby, so to change more on her might be too much right now.

I think I would wait until she is totally good with the new addition of a baby. She is still young, so it isn't like she is at an age where she should definitely be in the bed right now.

If you intend to move the baby into the playpen at some point, I would suggest you move older daughter out of the playpen at least a month before you need it for the baby.

For now, I would make sure she has some stuffed animals or blankets or something to sleep with in the playpen that you can use to move to the toddler bed when the time comes. Also, if you don't already, have her sleep in the playpen next to the toddler bed. Have her spend time on the bed with you there so she can get used to it and know it is safe...it sounds like she is getting there.

Keep in mind that sometimes we don't really see the affect a new baby has on our older kids, especially since we ourselves are experiencing such an impact. Leave time for her to transition before you do another huge change in her life.

kristin said...

Hi, thanks for this post. My son is almost 2.5 yrs old. I am pregnant with baby #2 and due at end of May. In the next 6 months I'd like to transition my son from crib to bed (so baby can use the crib) and also do poddy training - which my son doesnt seem to be ready for yet. Should I go ahead and transition from crib to bed now, or wait until he's poddy trained first? Any opinions?

Plowmanators said...

Kristin, I would do the crib transistion now and wait for potty training until you think he is ready. Being in a crib wouldn't be good for the potty trained child anyway because he couldn't get out of the bed to use the potty if needed. You don't want to potty train before they are ready; it just won't work.

Amber said...

Hey there! I just found you and have a few questions about my 26 month old boy. First of all, we did babywise with him and he's slept thru the night since 5 weeks, and for the most part has been a champion sleeper! We moved him to his big boy bed this summer in August, 6 weeks after our second son was born. My two year old has major issues getting out of bed. We have gone rounds on this one and I just wanted some advice/suggestions, anything that might work! He is used to obeying mommy during the day (i.e. blanket time,etc.) but when it comes to naps and bedtime, he runs and jumps all over his bed, does headstands (his bed is against the wall) and cries bloody-murder when we leave him after a well established routine of reading, singing, and praying. He used to wake us up by getting on the floor by the door and screaming out under the crack of the door. I've let him cry it out, I've moved his bed, taken his lamp away, put books up, taken away the chair and he seems to finally be settling down, but please, WHAT ON EARTH makes a child this crazy?! I do think he's having a hard time with the new baby, as the second was a traumatic preemie 2 month ordeal getting him home. Any ideas on this?

mshave said...

Hello! First of all, I just want to let you know that I LOVE this blog! I wish that I had this tool 7years ago when I BW trained my daughter!

My question is,is it ok to sleep train in the bassinet? I plan on moving my son to his crib when he is around 4 months (he is only 3 wks old now) and I don't want to confuse him. I don't want to move him now because we have a split floor plan and his room is clear across the house! Furthermore, my seven year old sleeps on the same end of the house that his room is on and I don't want to disturb her. Thank you!

Plowmanators said...

Amber,

It could be a problem with the new baby. I would make sure he gets some quality time one on one with each parent each day. Something else I have heard for this is making sure you have couchtime. It sounds strange, but I have heard many parents swear by it as a solution.

It sounds to me like it is a freedom issue. Read in toddlerwise about this--I think it is in the "toddler topic pool" chapter. Since he obeys you well in the day, it seems odd that he is getting out of bed and disobeying you at night. Evaluate his first time obedience. Also his freedoms surrounding bedtime. Really think through and evaluate how well he accepts your instruction during the day (the first time) and your decisions. If all of that is great, then I would look toward him possibly needing more quality time with parents each day. Good luck!

Plowmanators said...

mshave, I had Kaitlyn sleep train part time in the bassinet.

I have read that by 3 months you want to have your baby sleeping where you want them to be sleeping at one year. For Brayden, location of sleeping wasn't a big deal. He ended up moving beds and moving around the house all without problem. With Kaitlyn, I could sense from the beginning that she was going to be particular about her sleeping location, so while I had her in a bassinet in the night (her room was upstairs and mine on the main floor) for a the first few weeks, and in the bassinet for most naps, I was sure to have her in her crib for some naps each day. She really didn't like it at first. Up until a month ago, she still took one nap in the playyard and one in her crib, just to be sure she could handle various sleeping locations. She sleeps well in various sleeping locations now, but it is definitely because I varied it for her.

So, I would say you can definitely do some sleep training in the bassinet, but I would strongly recommend you do some naps in the day in the crib.

Kristin said...

Hi. I'm going insane. I've been reading your blog for answers and it has helped. Thank you for that. However, I read in this post, "A Babywise child typically has little difficulty (relatively speaking) with this transition because he is trained to obedience. He is required to obey mommy all day, so why should night be any different? It isn't." I must be bad at this because my toddler is not highly obedient. I have not read Toddlerwise. I'm looking to buy it when I have enough to get free shipping. Am I missing something?

Also, my 4 month old is driving me crazy. I try to do parent-directed, but I don't have a clue. His cues are all over the place and so am I. We're detecting a dairy allergy right now, so I recently went off dairy, but I still feel lost. The biggest trial for me is that I never established a wake-up time and he is choosing 6am. I would be okay with 7am. 6 is just a bit early for me to be a happy mom. Any suggestions?

Plowmanators said...

Kristin,

Reading Toddlerwise will help you. I am unsure of his age, but if he is 18-20ish months, he might be experiencing a very typical "rebellious" time. Until you can get toddlerwise, see the blog label "discipline" and also "toddlerwise" for guidance in this.

See these posts for your four month old:

Nap Cues : http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/03/nap-cues.html

Getting a Consistent Schedule: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/getting-consistent-schedule.html

Early Morning Feedings Before Waketime: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/early-morning-feedings-before-waketime.html

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