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How To Implement Babywise In Older Kids

by Natasha Coombs

While I'm a big fan of babywise, for the most part I've had to implement it's principles on much older children.  Five of the seven kids we fostered over the past few years were not infants.  These kids come from homes with no structure, routine, or stability.  Children typically thrive in routine so when they come to us, that's what we try to give them.  We like to be predictable for kids that have hardly had a predictable moment to create a sense of security.
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Consistent Routine

When we first get a placement, we pretty much hunker down for the first month or so.  Every single day looks basically the same - get up, get ready, eat breakfast, go to school, come home, nap, play, dinner, read, bed - or something along those lines.  We try not to stray from this routine for a bit so that life is extremely predictable for them in order to ease anxiety and create a sense of felt safety.  If the routine is going to change - for example, a doctor's appointment or even a play date - then we talk about for a few days beforehand and prepare them for the change in routine.

Have a Set Wake Up Time 

A key to getting a child on a good schedule is wake up time.  When you wake up at the same time each morning your body naturally gets accustomed to waking up at that time and it becomes routine - which is the goal.  A set wake up time is the cornerstone of your day.  You can plan the rest of your day because you know exactly when everyone will be up and at 'em.  Plus, this provides a basis for the rest of your routine.
If a child is waking up earlier than your set wake up time, don't let them start their day on their own and watch cartoons or run around the house.  We have our kids stay in bed until it's time to get up.  Some people allow their children to get out of bed and play quietly when they wake up.  Either option is fine depending on the age of the child and what kind of boundaries your child needs.  

Have a Set Bedtime

If you have a foster child it is likely they may have not had a set bedtime.  Sleep is so important for a child's brain development.  How much sleep is needed per night depends on the child's age, but I think it's safe to say that most kids need 10-12 hours of sleep per night.  So set bedtime to be 10-12 hours after the child's wake time.  
Along with a bedtime should come a consistent bedtime routine.  This will help your child wind down for the night and get mentally and physically prepared for bedtime.  Some bedtime routines include bath time, reading, and singing, which are all good wind down activities.

Have Set Mealtimes

How To Implement Babywise In Older Kids | Babywise | Starting Babywise late | #babywiseHaving set mealtimes is important for a few reasons.  First, it breaks up the day and gives a child at least three different reference points for how the day is progressing.  Children don't usually process a day in terms of time; they use events, such as waking up, going to bed, going to school and breakfast, lunch, and dinner.  So for a child who hasn't had much of a routine, mealtimes provide a lot of structure because they happen multiple times in a day.
Another reason mealtimes are so important is to create felt safety.  If a child consistently eats at the same time each day, he will come to expect to be fed and not wonder when his next meal is.  This can be a big trigger for some foster kids who weren't consistently fed or had to go without food for several days at a time.  Having a set mealtime provides felt safety in this area.  

Structured Playtime

Instead of letting the child play freely all the time, try to incorporate some structured playtime.  You can do this by implementing independent playtime/room time, bringing a bin of specific toys in the living room for the child to play with, and doing activities or games with the child.  Structured play is another way to contribute to the routine of your day. 

School and Social Activities

I think pre-school programs and other social activities such as extracurricular activities and playdates are so good for kids, especially those who have not had a lot of exposure in those areas.  School can provide some much-needed structure and social interaction for children who haven't had that before.  Extracurriculars and playdates are good opportunities for children to be taught social niceties.  Adding these things into your routine after you've got the basics down can be very beneficial.  Just be sure to give children a heads up before adding something like this in, especially if it's not an everyday thing.

Conclusion

Once you've got the basics down, then you can start adding other things in and being more open with your days.  Remember to make the schedule work for you, not the other way around.  The schedule is there to help you and to help your kids.
If you have older kids and have decided to implement Babywise, it's not too late!  Start with these basics and soon enough you'll have yourself a schedule.

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Natasha is a work-at-home lawyer and mama to 4 kids acquired through adoption and IVF - Laurel (7), Bennett (5), Christopher (2), and Everly (8 months).  She blogs at Let's Be Brave.

A Day In The Life Of A Babywise Mom

It was a chilly afternoon in mid January, 2013. I was in the backyard taking a "breather" from the cries of my 2 month old son, Declan. Sleep deprived and stressed out, I didn't know what to do to get him to stop crying. Bounce, rock, feed, walk, sing, talk... all day, everyday was just spent trying to get him to nap! He'd fall asleep in my arms, I'd carefully lay him in his crib. Ahhh. Peace and quiet. Alas, like clockwork, 20 minutes later, a shrill cry from the nursery pierces my ears. I wept tears of despair.

Finally, I sent a text to an old highschool friend, whom has 4 children. She recommended I read On Becoming Babywise. I couldn't find it at Chapters, which may be due to the "controversy" of the book, but I found it on Craigslist for free. I researched this so-called controversial book and found that it had been revised with an M.D. Upon reading the entire book within a few hours, I could not fathom how it was considered controversial. I don't think any of these "critics" have actually ever read the book. It clearly states, if your baby is hungry before the 3 hour mark, feed it. No baby starving going on here. The words "failure to thrive" are thrown around frequently in reference to the Babywise method and frankly, they don't know what they're talking about.

Declan was born with a very rare group 'G' strep (not 'B') infection that landed him in the NICU for 7 days of antibiotics. I had top-notch nurses teaching me all kinds of things. They only feed the babies every 3 hours on the clock. She suggested I do the same and to get a full feeding in so he doesn't become a snacker. Well I know good advice when I hear it. Luckily, that is exactly what the Babywise method is all about! Healthy eating habits from day one.

Since I already had the 3 hour feeding schedule down to a science, I had to implement the Feed-->Waketime-->Nap schedule. I had him on a routine of feed/waketime for 1.5 hours, followed by 1.5 hours of nap. This rotated all day until his bedtime at 6 PM. The very first nap I put him down for (wide awake is the key), he cried for 40 minutes. The second nap rolled around and he cried for 20 minutes. He did not cry after that. That's how easy it was! I had trained him to know that when mommy puts him down, it means naptime. It is just that simple! I was in heaven after the first day. What a difference! He was waking up with a huge smile on his face. He wasn't crying or fussing because he was well rested. We started to bond in a whole new way and all it took was regular naps. Daddy and I were much better, too. He wasn't coming home from a hard day of work, to an exhausted, stressed out mama. It was a life changing improvement for everyone!

Within 4 weeks of starting the Babywise method, Declan started sleeping through the night all on his own. The book states that a large percentage of Babywise babies will be sleeping through the night by 15 weeks... I was skeptical at first, but it's true! I never thought that 8 consecutive hours of sleep would come so early.

Present day, Declan just turned 7 months and we are doing fantastic! He currently sleeps 12 hours at night and takes 2 two hour naps a day. I continue to thank my friend for recommending On Becoming Babywise, for it saved my sanity. If anyone asks me for advice, whether in person or on social media, I always advocate this method. As a parent, what I see most often, is "Whatever works for you and your baby. Every baby is different." While this is very true, the fact is, what works for every baby is regular naps everyday. Babies, toddlers, teenagers and adults, all thrive off of consistency and routine.

It is our jobs as parents to create the comfort and security of consistency.

I almost can't wait to have a second baby so I can implement Babywise right from day one! It really changed our lives, for the better and I don't know where I'd be without the knowledge that I've gained from such an amazing book.

Meagan K.

Starting Babywise Late Guide

You are new to On Becoming Baby Wise. For whatever reason, you haven't used any of the principles yet and you want to now, but don't know where to start.

I was there once. Despite the fact that a friend told me all about Babywise when I was pregnant with Brayden and it sounded like a good idea to me, we hadn't even read the book. We figured our natural instincts of parenting would kick in and everything would be peachy. But they weren't! And so after a month of Brayden's life (which seemed like an eternity to me), we decided to go buy the book. 

I started late, and you can too. I know that no matter the age of your child, you are going to be worried you are too late to use Babywise successfully. No matter the age, you are not too late. Your baby (or child) is not too old. 

So how do you get started? I think that there is no one right way to go about it, but here is my way. Read through it and see how that works with your personality and adapt it as necessary to make your own way. 

Step One: Do the Reading
You can't implement something if you don't know what you are implementing. I read On Becoming Babywise in 1-2 hours my first time through--you can read it quite quickly. Read through Babywise and read what you can here so you can know what it is you are trying to accomplish and how you will try to accomplish it.

I know I have a TON of posts here. I have been writing this blog for over five years. I am sure it is incredibly overwhelming to come here and have all of this information before you. If you have a young baby, see this post: Must-Read Posts to Prep for Baby

Utilize the Blog Index and the Index By Age. Those will help you find posts relevant to what you are trying to find out about. There are also blog labels on the right side of any page, as well as a search function at the top left of any page. 

If you have an older baby, do still look through information for younger babies. The ideas build on each other. Don't start with your 7 month old baby and expect to jump in where the average 7 month old Babywise baby is. You will need to start at the basics, get those down, and then work toward the other things. I have a post that can help you with the basic idea: The Gist of Babywise.

Step Two: Make a Plan
As you read the material, decide on a plan of implementation. Start with basics. The basics are eating, sleeping, and playing. The most basic things to worry about are eating and sleeping. Write down the goals you have for your baby and figure out ways you can meet those goals.

Step Three: Follow the Pattern
When I started late, I started with the pattern of eat, play, sleep. Eat, play, sleep. That was my first area of focus. This is what I suggest to anyone I advise who is starting late. Don't worry about how or where baby is sleeping, just get the pattern down. Baby eats  Then baby plays. Then baby takes a nap. Then baby eats. Then baby plays. Then baby takes a nap. See more here: 

Eat/Wake/Sleep Cycle


Now, older babies won't follow this pattern exactly. As babies get older, they drop naps, so not every feeding follows sleep. Here is a basic age break down. They can vary, but this will give you a good idea of where you should be.

0-4 Months Old:
  • Baby will take 4 naps a day
  • Baby will go to bed around 7-8 PM
  • Baby will benefit from a dreamfeed
  • Baby might wake in the night
  • Get baby up in the morning around 7-8 AM to start the day
  • Baby will be able to be awake anywhere from 30 minutes to 1.5 hours during this time period before needing another nap (this includes feeding time)
4-6 Months Old
  • Baby will take 3 naps a day
  • Baby will go to bed around 7-8 PM
  • Baby may or may not have a dreamfeed
  • Baby might wake in the night (and if you are just starting out, there is a good chance baby will be)
  • Get baby up in the morning around 7-8 AM to start the day
  • Baby will be able to be awake anywhere from 1-2 hours at a time before needing a nap during this time period (this includes feeding time)
6-8 Months Old
  • Baby will take 2-3 naps a day
  • Baby will go to bed around 7-8 PM
  • Baby may or may not have a dreamfeed--most drop the dreamfeed in this time period if they still have it
  • Baby might wake in the night (and if you are just starting out, there is a good chance baby will be)
  • Get baby up in the morning around 7-8 AM to start the day
  • Baby will be able to be awake anywhere from 1-2 hours at a time before needing a nap during this time period (this includes feeding time). Most babies will be able to be at 1.5-2 hours
9-12 Months Old
  • Baby will take 2-3 naps a day--most take 2
  • Baby will go to bed around 7-8 PM
  • Baby can soon stop waking in the night (if you are just starting out, there is a good chance baby will be waking in the night still)
  • Get baby up in the morning around 7-8 AM to start the day
  • Baby will be able to be awake anywhere from 1.5-2 hours at a time before needing a nap during this time period (this includes feeding time). Most babies will be up for two hours, down for two hours, etc.
13-15 Months Old
  • Baby will take 2 naps a day
  • Baby will go to bed around 7-8 PM
  • Baby is old enough to soon stop waking in the night (if you are just starting out, there is a good chance baby will be waking in the night still)
  • Get baby up in the morning around 7-8 AM to start the day
  • Baby will be able to be awake anywhere from for about 2 hours at a time before needing a nap during this time period (this includes feeding time). Most babies will be up for two hours, down for two hours, etc.
15-18 Months Old
  • Baby will take 1-2 naps a day--most drop the morning nap in this period
  • Baby will go to bed around 7-8 PM
  • Baby is old enough to soon stop waking in the night (if you are just starting out, there is a good chance baby will be waking in the night still)
  • Get baby up in the morning around 7-8 AM to start the day
Step Four: Write Things Down
Keep track of what times baby ate, how long baby was awake, what baby did to play, and how baby slept. This will help you see patterns and help you problem solve. You can create your own logs, or you can purchase mine for $1.00.

Step Five: Start Having Naps in the Right Place
Once you have your pattern down, it is time to start thinking about where you want baby sleeping. In Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child, Weissbluth states that the most restorative sleep is sleep that is in a stationary place, like a crib. That is my recommendation.

Put baby down for naps and night in the crib. 

Your baby will likely wake up after a short nap. You want naps to be anywhere from 1.5-2.5 hours long (except for the last nap of the day if baby still has 3-4 naps; the last nap of the day is often 30-60 minutes). If baby wakes early and is not hungry, have a plan for what to do. I recommend holding, rocking, the swing, etc. As your baby learns to sleep independently, she will not easily fall back asleep on her own when she wakes early. That day will come, but she needs to have the tools to fall asleep first. So for now, help her fall back asleep. You are taking baby steps here.

Your baby will sleep the longest for the nap if the nap starts at the best time. That means baby is awake for the right amount of time. I call this "optimal waketime." See this post for more: Optimal Waketime Lengths

Step Six: Have Patience
This is not going to be a simple, quick fix. You need to have patience through the process. Ages for abilities are averages and what is most frequent--they are not absolutes. Your baby is a human and will have variations. 

Step Seven: Dedicate Some Time
Once you start napping in the crib, dedicate some time to the process. It is wise to just stay home for 1-2 weeks while you get this nailed down. You will be able to have flexibility, but your baby cannot be flexible if there is no starting point and no point to return to after a disruption. See this post: Establishing Consistency--Make Sacrifices:http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/02/establish-consistencymake-sacrifices.html and this post: Getting a Consistent Schedule:http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/getting-consistent-schedule.html and Understanding Flexibility.

Do always remember: Let Your Schedule Serve You: You Don't Serve Your Schedule (Don't Stress)--but you first need to establish the norm.

Step Eight: Decide On Sleep Goals
Decide what your sleep goals are. Do you want baby to fall asleep on her own? If so, how are you going to meet that goal? There are many roads to get there. You can CIO, you can follow advice from The Baby Whisperer, or you can try The No-Cry Sleep Solution. If you don't mind helping your baby to fall asleep, go ahead and do that--just move baby to the crib once she is asleep. Personally, my preference is for baby to fall asleep on her own in her crib. Once you know your goals, make a plan and implement them.

Step Nine: Be Ready for Curve Balls
Things will come up that you weren't planning on. Know that and expect it. Address them as they come up. Search for a solution and problem solve. See this: Just When You Got It, Everything Changes:http://www.babywisemom.com/2010/02/just-when-you-got-iteverything-changes.html
Step Ten: Expect Baby To Be Behind "Schedule"
With Babywise, there is a list of milestones of when your baby will likely achieve certain goals (like sleeping through the night). If you start late, know your baby will likely take some time to catch up to those goals. Some take to it faster than others. We started Brayden full on at 9 weeks and he wasn't fully caught up in milestones until he was 6.5 months old.

Conclusion
No matter how you go about it, break down your goals into manageable steps. Add one thing at a time to make it easiest on you and your baby. Best of luck to you!

Rest for the Whole Family

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While pregnant, I dreamed of what life would be like with a new baby. I had experience with kids and newborns, my husband did not. I thought I would be the tough one and he would be the softie. Our beautiful son was born and exhaustion set in. At the time, we lived in a one bedroom apartment that we had set up like a studio. Most of our belongings were packed in boxes from floor to ceiling in the bedroom and we made the living room our bedroom/nursery/dining room. It was tight quarters, but it worked for the time being. We were under contract to buy a house, so it was just a short term solution. 

The first few weeks or two our son would sleep in his crib and I would feed on demand. I was utterly exhausted. One night, in a zombie state, I brought him into our bed to nurse and both baby and I fell back asleep. I found this to be easy. I could sleep and he could eat. There I no longer used the crib and when it was time for my son to sleep I would lay down with him and sleep too. There was only one problem. We had a queen size bed and my husband is a very heavy sleeper. I awoke one night to find my son trapped under the weight of my husband. I began sleeping at the very edge of the bed to give my son the most amount of room possible. After a couple weeks of this I discovered the little sleep I was getting wasn't quality. I was waking multiple times in the night to nurse and when I was sleeping, it was always a light sleep so I could watch over my little one. I needed more sleep and I realized it. We tried to transition our son back into the crib, but he wasn't having it. I didn't like letting him cry himself to sleep, so I would walk him, rock him, hold him on the edge of the bathtub while the water ran. I tried everything. Whatever worked that night was my life saver. Too bad it took 45 minutes to get anything to work! I honestly had convinced myself if was easier to do it that way.

Around 5 or 6 weeks into my son's life, my husband's coworker suggested we read Babywise. My husband was all for it. We bought a copy and while he read aloud I would tune him out. I was not on board. I don't remember how it happened. Somehow I too became a fan. Maybe because I saw it was working. We would put our son in the crib and comfort him every so often. There was no extra room in our apartment for his crib to go into, so we were right there while he screamed. The first night I think he lasted for 3 hours. My sweet husband sat by the crib all night comforting as needed. He also had to spend some time holding me in the bed while I sobbed. The first night was rough. The first couple of nights were rough. I would take a bath while he went to sleep or make a trip to the grocery store. It was tough on me hearing my baby cry. Gradually things got better. My son spent less time crying and more time sleeping. After a few weeks there was no crying. We would lay him down and he would fall asleep. We all began sleeping better and life was great! 

I no longer nursed on demand and loved the schedule I was creating. I'm a person who likes routine, so everything was working out great! My son is 11 months old now. He is a great sleeper. He loves his crib! He sleeps at least 12 hours a night and takes 2 naps a day. There is no more crying when it's time to go to sleep. In fact, the few times I have tried to rock him to sleep he fights me, but the second I lay him down in the crib he goes straight to sleep. I am so thankful that my husband took charge and convinced me that Babywise would work. It really was a life saver for us!

Jenny

Happy Baby, Happy Parents

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Before our son was born, a good friend of mine mailed me a beat up old copy of BW and swore that it was and continued to be the reason her children (now 6 and 10 years old) slept so well.  When Charlie arrived, as new parents we were just trying to find our way.  I assumed because he was so young, I was breastfeeding,  and that I was on maternity leave, I didn’t need to really worry about a  schedule just yet and let him eat/sleep without any kind of consistency.  I had supply issues that forced me to stop breastfeeding at 5 weeks and at my husband’s prompting we decided to implement the BW schedule at that time.  Charlie took to it immediately and I realized that for the past 5 weeks I  was not allowing him to sleep as much as he should be!  By 7 weeks of age he was sleeping through the night in his crib in his own room.  Although I had prepared myself for it, there was never really a big CIO period and he continues to go down for naps and bed time easily.  He loves his crib, wakes up with a smile and can play/sing in there independently.  Everyone considers Charlie to be a happy baby and tell us all the time how “lucky” we are that we have such a good baby.  We try to explain to them that it is not luck, it is taking the time to implement the BW schedule that has made for such a  happy baby.  I don’t need to tell you that happy baby means happy, well-rested parents!  We never went through a time where we were exhausted from being up all night with him.  BW was a lifesaver for us and has helped with a smooth transition to parenthood!

-Kristie

Reader Starting Late Questions

alicia michelle d'altilio said...
I have a 7 month old and I would like to start using babywise, do you have any suggestions? I Have always followed the eat-wake-sleep pattern. We also put her down for naps and let her CIO. She started sleeping through the nights at 2 months but then stopped at 6 months. She now has awakes 1 or 2 times a night. Now she is also not interested in morning naps... I lay her down and she plays for 30-45 mins. DO you think this has to do with her being extra tired from not sleeping through the night? I look forward to your response.
July 31, 2008 1:48 PM

Plowmanators said...
Alicia,Be sure to read the book. At that age, I would read BW one and BW two. Be sure to check out this post:Starting Babywise Late: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2007/12/starting-babywise-late.html  It sounds like your daughter is ready for longer waketime before her first nap. Try adding 5 minutes. It that doesn't work, another 5, etc. When they do that, it often is because they need a longer waketime, and 5 minutes can make a huge difference.So read the books and be sure to check out the index on this blog. There are tons of posts here--plenty of reading for you ;)
August 3, 2008 4:12 PM



miraclebaby said...







Thanks so much for this blog...I've found it so helpful in implementing Babywise with my LO!

My question about my little guy: He's 8 weeks old today and we started BW when he was 4 weeks thanks to a dear friend who told me about it. He's had a lot of breast feeding trouble and then we found out I had an oversupply & foremilk/hindmilk imbalance and we are taking care of that by doing one-sided feedings. About 2 weeks ago he started experiencing terrible gas (maybe silent reflux???). He spits up alot and then swallows it (we use a paci). He was doing great on a 3 hour E/W/S cycle and started sleeping about 7 hours a night and worked his way up to 9 hours (9pm-6am).

For the last 3 day/nights, he been WAY off of his normal schedule and I can't figure out why. His total wake time is generally 1.25 hours with 1.75 hours nap time and then a 9 hour sleeping night. Because he's had so much gas, he's refusing to eat more than 5-10 minutes and I'm having a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance again which is perpetuating the problem. His wake time has gone from 1.25 hours to less then 40 minutes every time. He still sleeps to complete a 3 hour cycle during the day, but is no longer sleeping through the night. I now have a wide awake baby at midnight and he's waking up at 5am! Any suggestions? I know it's a lot of information on him, but it seems like so many factors play into it.

We're being proactive as far as the gas (cutting certain gassy foods out of my diet, elevated mattress for him, colic tabs, gripe water, Mylicon, etc...) but nothing seems to be helping! Help! How do I get my precious LO who was E/W/S so peacefully and sleeping through the night back to the way he was?? Thanks!!



miraclebaby said...







PS. I forgot to ask: Could this be day time/night time confussion? I have to wake him from every nap and he ALWAYS doses during his feedings, no matter what I try to do to keep him awake...



Plowmanators said...







miraclebaby,

You would want to look at what has changed for him. You say his waketime is shorter, but his naps are still long. That could be the reason for being more awake at night.

He could also just be unable to soothe himself since you use a pacifier and is waking more often at night now. Many babies go through this, though usually closer to 3 months old.

So look to what is different about now and back when it was good and see what has changed.

Baby Whisperer: Starting a Routine "Late"

In The Baby Whisperer Solves All Your Problems, Hogg outlines steps to starting her EASY routine late--meaning later than birth. She outlines what to do and what to expect when starting at various ages. I particularly love one piece of advice she gives.

Hogg says when starting a routine, take two weeks to stay home and be consistent. She says you must do at least one week. "You must make the time to make the change" (page 42). I love this advice and have given it myself many times.

We started full Babywise with Brayden when he was 9 weeks old. It was summer, and we had a lot of things going on. Add to it the fact that he was the oldest grandchild on one side and the oldest grandson on the other, and he was a popular guy. We experienced disruption after disruption. After a couple of weeks, I finally decided he needed time to be consistent and get this new way of life. My husband and I decided there would be no disruptions for two weeks to his schedule except for church.

This made a huge difference! It was such a huge difference that when we were deciding on the timing of when to have Kaitlyn, we chose a time of year that we knew we could easily establish her schedule with her. This is a huge consideration for me when I am deciding what time of year I want my children to be born.

So when you are starting your routine, give time for a routine to be established. You will be able to enjoy life a lot sooner if you do :)

Related Posts:

Starting Babywise Late

How to start Baby Wise late


Note 2013--I have a more detailed post on starting Babywise Late here.

You can always start Babywise, no matter what the age of your child. You can start as a 8 week old, 8 month old, or 2 year old. I started with Brayden at 9 weeks. Here is some advice for starting late.
  • Read the tips for starting late found in Babywise.
  • Read the CIO Bootcamp post on this blog 
  • With Brayden, I first started the eat, play, sleep, eat, play, sleep, etc. routine and also on getting him accustomed to eating every 2.5-3 for about a week before I dove into CIO. That is just what I did. You can start it all at once if you want to.
  • Expect your baby to be behind what the book says he should be doing at certain ages. He will catch up though. He won't be behind forever. Brayden was a couple of months behind for a couple of months, then by six months he was pretty much right on.
  • If you are starting with CIO, I would start at bedtime. The child is the sleepiest and it should be the shortest CIO session (though I am sure some child out there is going to prove me wrong!).
  • I would start the feeding schedule in the morning and go from there. Eat, play, sleep. Follow the schedule.
  • Know that Babywise babies who start at birth do vary in the timeline, so yours can and will, too.
  • You might want to keep a log on intervals of waketime and naps and such so you can more easily see a pattern when you need to fix problems.
  • You will run into difficulties. Address them as they come. Do it according to your personality. I like to face one thing at a time, so I address one issue at a time.
  • If you have a much older baby or a toddler, read the books that lead up to your age as well as the age you are at. They all have schedule suggestions and structure suggestions.
Good luck! Be prepared for some crying and some difficulty, but also be prepared for wonderful results. I love Babywise. The payoffs are more than worth the difficulties you face in the beginning.
Reader Questions:
  • Mom2Cohen said...
    ...my son is 12 weeks old and has yet to sleep through the night. I have just read BW and I am ready to start. My question is...do I just jump in and start at the next feeding or is it best to start in the morning, night, etc? Any other tips or advice for someone like me who is starting late? Thanks so much!
    December 27, 2007 4:51 PM
    Plowmanators said...
    It would depend on what you are are starting. If you are going to start full-on with CIO and everything, I would start CIO at bedtime. That is the sleepiest time of day, so I think it will be the most successful CIO time.For feedings, I would start at the beginning of a new day. Good luck! I will do a post on starting late; I started at 9 weeks with Brayden, so I have been there.
    December 27, 2007 4:56 PM
  • Mom2Cohen said...
    WOW! BW worked great! So here is what we did for our first night...8:30 - layed him down 9:15 - he went to sleep 9:50 - he woke up 10:30 - he went to sleep (This was the hardest period we had all night) 3:15 - he woke up/I fed him (since this was our first night CIO and he is used to eating several times at night I went ahead and allowed one feeding)3:45 - layed him down 4:30 - he went to sleep (he didn't cry for this entire time...he just layed there and looked around) 7:30 - he woke up/ I fed him. Overall, I would say that yes it was very difficult to hear him cry. However, DH was able to "listen" via monitor while I occupied myself doing other things which helped me out a lot! This morning we layed him down at 9:00 and he cooed in his crib until 9:30 when he fell asleep. That is where we are at so far...I will update more later! Thanks for all your help! I will be checking in frequently as I think this is a great resource!
    December 28, 2007 8:46 AM
    Plowmanators said...
    That is wonderful! I am so glad it all went well. Hang on to that memory. You are likely to have some hard days intermingled with the good ones. It does get better!When I started Brayden on BW, he was waking twice a night. Within a week, once a night was his norm. I did nothing to try to prevent him from waking at night, I just worked on the day stuff and the night fixed itself. I look forward to hearing about your progress!
    December 28, 2007 9:14 AM
  • mommynik said...
    I'm back! :) I started doing CIO back in February. We have had a roller coaster and I have a hard time letting my 5 month old cry b/c of small house/hardwood floors/etc. I came to my mom's house to "work it out" and it is just like at home after several nights.My problem isn't getting him to go to sleep, it is the night waking. If I let him cry, he is so sleep deprived already, that he squirms and wiggles to a place in his crib and needs rescued. Do you rescue or just let him cry? He could easily cry for 1 to 2 hours in the middle of the night. If I let him go, it seems to be never ending and it still happens every night.What is the deal? Everyone acts like it is a quick association. It isn't.I am letting CIO for naps, etc. but nothing is stopping his night waking. Do you have some suggestions? (and I'm still nursing 1 -2 times a night b/c BF & not sure a 13 lb baby can reasonably go all night.)
    April 6, 2008 9:31 PM
    Plowmanators said...
    It isn't a fast process, and the older the baby, the longer it will take to work through it. If he gets himself into a strange position in the crib, I would definitely get him. Also, until daytime is worked out, I wouldn't worry about the night. You and he both need good sleep at night to make it through the CIO in the day. He should make it better at night once he figures the self-soothing out. I would just get him, feed him, then put him back to bed. It will take time, but it will improve. Good luck! See these posts:Progress is a Spiral: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/progress-is-in-spiral.html When Does it Get Better?: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2007/12/when-does-it-get-better.html
    April 6, 2008 10:44 PM
  • Zasha said...
    Hi there,I just found your blog by chance! I live in Tokyo, Japan and have a 3+ week old baby boy (born on May 2nd). As you can imagine, my life has turned topsy turvy since his arrival. It's the happiest time in my life and yet the hardest.I was encouraged to demand feed and that is what I ha done since day 1. However, it is not working out for me. I am exhausted and it's taking a toll on me physically and emotionally.My baby will not go to sleep (day or night) on his own. I have to nurse him to sleep and then put him in his moses basket. Sometimes he sleeps for 2 hours, sometimes only 30 minutes. It's all very unpredictable. My friend suggested Babywise and is sending me the book. I am looking forward to reading it and practicing it although I must say that I am quite the skeptic! (perhaps my exhaustion talking here) Here are some questions which I hope you don't mind answering:
    1) If I were to start at 4 weeks-6 weeks old, is it too late? Can I undo what I had already done? (nursing him to sleep, putting him in a sling to sleep?)
    2) I have started to loosely try BabyWise by doing the feed/play/sleep routine. I feed him for at least 30 minutes, then we play with him. He often gets tired after about 30 minutes (starts yawning, rubbing eyes, fussing). Then, I put him in his moses basket and he starts crying bloody murder (all the while with his eyes shut)! My husband and I have have left our baby to cry it out several times (for his day sleep) but oh, boy, can he cry! Our baby can cry for 1.5 hours! We tried to soothe him..pat him etc but nothing worked. The cry would just escalate until we get tired of hearing him and pick him up. The moment he gets picked up, he's quiet. Do you think he's crying so much because he's too young to understand? What am I doing wrong? I read that other babies cry for 15 minutes or 30 minutes and mine goes on endlessly. What should I do? Should I wait until he's at least 6 weeks old? I am at my wits end...Thank you so much for your blog..I look forward on starting our baby on BabyWise and hope that it works for us!
    May 25, 2008 9:37 PM
    Plowmanators said...
    Zasha, I am glad you found the site! Hopefully it can be helpful to you. 1-4-6 weeks definitely isn't too late. I started at 9 with my son, and he really is a model BW kid (now 3 years old). You can undo--though you should expect some difficulty. The later you start, the harder it is; I started at birth with my daughter (13 months) and it was much easier with her. 2-I think he is crying because it is something new and not what he is used to. Since he stops crying as soon as you get him, I would say nothing is wrong with him other than he doesn't like the new arrangement. Be sure to check out the CIO bootcamp linked in this post, also see this post:Should You Do CIO? http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2007/11/should-you-do-cio.html
    Also, many many babies cry for much longer than 15 or 20 minutes. So, your son isn't strange in the least. Whenever you start, just be sure you are ready to do it all the way. If you don't stick it out, it will make the training even harder, so it is better to start when you are really committed. Be sure to look through the blog index...there are so many posts :) Good luck and don't hesitate to ask questions when they come up!
    Take Note of the Index: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/02/take-note-of-index.html
    May 26, 2008 10:17 AM
  • Skvaril's said...
    Superb site! Thank you for such a valuable source. I have a 5 month old and I definitely fall into the "starting late" category. Before finding Babywise, we had consistently had our baby on a wake eat sleep cycle schedule and had implemented CIO resulting in our baby going down for naps and sleep fairly easily. However, at the 4 month mark, naps became short and night wakings for feeds became more frequent. This is when I sought an answer and found Babywise and your site. My question is: What problem do I address first? He is on a 3 hour schedule, gets the dreamfeed but still consistently wakes 2 times (1 and 4) a night for feeding. I've tried CIO for these periods but after over 2 hours, fed him and he ate a full meal. Seems from all the postings on this site that he is getting plenty of calories during the day since we still haven't managed to get past the 3 hour routine. I started the introduction of solids but that is a work in progress. His waketime during the day is roughly 90 to 105 minutes. However, his naps have begun getting shorter (45 minutes). I tried the suggestions of shortening wake time (this whole past month has been trial and error...mostly error) but his nap times are still not increasing. I read a post which you indicated your son hated to sleep. I'm wondering if I just have one of those. When he wakes early from naps he's fussy so I know he's not well rested. Nowadays it seems the only thing that I have been able to control is morning waketime and bedtime (he's a 6:30 - 6:30 baby). I try to devote each day to establishing the Babywise routine but after seeing no results after a month of trying to implement the Babywise books and this site and not seeing any results, I'm just discouraged. Any advice would be welcome!
    July 15, 2008 9:50 PM
    Plowmanators said...
    Skvarils, Thanks for the thanks! I would suggest this post:Getting a Consistent Schedule: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/getting-consistent-schedule.html
    I always suggest getting the day down first because the night will usually follow. There are some babies out there who, despite their mother's best efforts, sleep only 45 minutes. It is rare, but does seem to happen. I would work on it, but try to not stress about it. Remember it takes at least 8 weeks for things to seem to click, and possibly longer when you start late. I would give it some more time for both of you to figure it out. See my post from today; the work is hard, but so well worth it! :)
    July 17, 2008 9:05 PM
  • Katie said...
    Hi, My daughter is 10 weeks old and I've been doing babywise for about a week now. Prior to babywise, I was parenting on demand, and Lily was fussy a lot of the day and up erratically at night. Now, she puts herself to sleep (happily) and sleeps from 9PM to 6 AM, eats, and goes back down until 9 AM. She is happy when she wakes up! My problem is with naps! She simply does not want to take as many naps as recommended but I am confused on how to schedule in a three hour cycle that does not involve a nap every three hours (or if I skip a nap, wait for 6 hours, which is too long!) For naps she wants to take, she happily goes down with not a peep but if she doesn't want to nap, she screams the entire time she's in her room (max 45 minutes is my limit). To me it seems that is she has learned to go down herself, and is sleeping through the night, that I have accomplished the goal of the book and can adjust the rest of the schedule accordingly. Have you had experience with this? If so, how?Thanks in advance for your advice!!
    September 11, 2008 3:44 AM
    Plowmanators said...
    I would caution against not getting enough sleep. See this post:Sleep Begets Sleep : http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/08/sleep-begets-sleep.html What I would do is keep a log and try to see a pattern in the times she doesn't "want" to sleep. See if it is the same time each day and what happens before these naps. 10 weeks is young enough that she needs her nap each cycle, so I would find out the reasons for her fighting certain naps. These posts can help you:Waking Early From Naps/Won't Fall Asleep For Naps: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/waking-early-from-napswont-fall-asleep.html Nap Cues : http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/03/nap-cues.html BW Tips and Tricks: Keep a Log: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2007/12/tips-and-tricks-keep-log.html She sounds like she is doing great, so you should definitely feel good about where you are thus far.
    September 15, 2008 3:11 PM